tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32671574.post7823434479069974900..comments2024-03-22T14:47:42.501+02:00Comments on Tibeto-logic: The Flood that Backfired, & the Tangut RefugeesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32671574.post-80853380305555846962019-01-31T11:32:04.114+02:002019-01-31T11:32:04.114+02:00Hi Yudron-la,
Well, maybe 'hurled' was t...Hi Yudron-la, <br /><br />Well, maybe 'hurled' was the dramatic translation choice. That verb 'phangs is past of 'phen, right? I get it that zor and arrows are usually 'launched' or 'shot' using this same verb. What should we prefer they do with those tormas in case of a water emergency? And I imagine our hero, laconic as he tends to be, could have left off mention of the long ceremony that went with it, since there surely was one. It says they did it on the night of the 15th, with the result appearing on the "6th" but must intend the 'sixteenth' since this action is squeezed in between the 15th and 17th. In this reading the effect of their ritual would have taken within a 24-hour period when the water 'spilled forth' (bo, past form of 'bo). Thanks for dropping by.<br /><br />Yours, D.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10453904366382251766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32671574.post-46225583671234191052019-01-31T01:12:26.278+02:002019-01-31T01:12:26.278+02:00I'm still thinking about what kind of tormas t...I'm still thinking about what kind of tormas they would have hurled. Zor? And they just hurled them, unceremoniously? Desperate times, desperate measures.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02002341001687153219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32671574.post-56770426639710307582019-01-29T12:53:29.500+02:002019-01-29T12:53:29.500+02:00Splendid hearing from you, Andrew. I'm always ...Splendid hearing from you, Andrew. I'm always amazed to see what new revelations about Tanguts & so on are appearing on BabelStone. To answer the practical question, the ISBN in the particular volume is 978-988-8516-78-0. An web address is also given: www.hksjiys.com. The only source I know that offers it is: tibetanbookstore.org (09.2018 Sixth Update). The book is fresh off the press, so others may start offering it too. One thing: after completely reading through the biography just yesterday, I never once noticed the name of Repakarpo, the reputed author, so I wonder how the editors so confidently ascribe it to him (Tishirepa's words could have been written down by another student). It's copied from a manuscript, very likely in cursive, and it would be so much better if they had make it available in facsimile. And you're right, this little flooding story is just the tip of the iceberg, there is plenty more to learn and ponder about the late years of the Tangut Kingdom in these words of Tishirepa. Elliot in his article comments on how his later source on the Barom Kagyu lineage supplies direct [but as it turns out in some cases at least truncated] first-person quotes from Tishirepa and divines that there must have been an autobiography. That source is this one, even if it doesn't call itself an autobiography. Stay well and prosper!<br />Yours, D.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10453904366382251766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32671574.post-42738929231734645612019-01-28T15:52:01.030+02:002019-01-28T15:52:01.030+02:00Very intriguing! I want to learn more about the Ti...Very intriguing! I want to learn more about the Tibetan perspective on Tangut, and this seems like an invaluable source. Where can I get a copy of the book (do they sell v. 7 separately?). I googled for it but could not find it. Do you have its ISBN?Andrew Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13285264515135121616noreply@blogger.com